New v7 client suggestions

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  • Freebo

    FEW NEW REQUESTS AND SUGGESTIONS for v7 IN-GAME CLIENT Zi. Really amazing job with official Client v7 - with fixed in-game controls. Thanks for hearing my small requests there over last beta. It\'s almost perfect now. I seriously love it. Next on \"to do\" list :) (1) Thanks for making possible choosing the server just by typing it\'s ID. But I think removing of \"join\" also from second line of description would be good idea. It should avoid confussion. Less = Easier ;) I think description of joining should be like: \"type the numer of server and press enter to join\" or something like that. To make it easier for all even without any kind of video tutorials. (2) Right after choosing the server - the moment while map\'s \"loading screen\" shows - console should disappear. I know Client is probably not able to detect the moment when loading screen starts but making console disapper for example 5 seconds after map is downloaded/server is chosen - should solve the problem. It will look more pro without console over the maps picture. Not like some coders ideas but very pro solution. (3) In next version of client - maps autodoloader (with % progress counter) should work in console only. Now when autodownlader closes Crysis window for a while (depending on maps weight - sometimes for 2 seconds but sometimes even for 1 minute) it\'s kind of confusing for unexperienced users. As soon as we will have it integrated with console and displayed in it\'s line - it will be perfect and finall. (4) I\'m not sure about this one because I don\'t know about controling the console on deafault - but is that possible to make servers list show in console as default ? I mean when you open console by \"~\" in game - it would show servers list without scrolling up and looking for it. I think that is some idea to make it work fast. If not like that - maybe just some command like \"serv\", \"srv\" or \"servers\" or even \"0\" (zero) to show the list ( in this case most of players would use only numbers in console \"0\" would be the list \"1\", \"2\"... servers ID - quick and easy) So it could make swiching from server to server even more comfortable. Right now it\'s already amazing. You don\'t have to leave the game, go to menu to disconnect and later connect to new server - as we had to before in old Crysis. Now choosing server is possible right in console - just in 2 seconds. This is great job. But would be even better with servers list position as default in console - or at least this special SHORT - one word - command for servers list. Anyway I like it a lot. (5) For more pro look of list now : - Colors in console should be less intense. If you can control RGB code there (?) GREEN should be more like Crysis menu Green (sampled from the image). If you can\'t and you can use only deafault colors there (like $5, $2 etc) - so that green should be more like that amber - that one one used for \"USE\" to make servers list less intense. But RED - for sure should be gray. This is what I\'m sure about. Red looks always like worning and here it\'s function is to show disabled servers from other version not the worning :) Gray is perfect. List will look more pro after that. And here comes #6... (6) Like I\'ve been suggesting before - when player enters the ID of server that is from different Crysis version 5767/6156) than the one he is running - he should get RED message in console \"you can\'t enter this server (because) you are using different version / patch of the game\" or something like this. Now it\'s not right - because client just tries to connect the server without any clear messages for player. Even autodowloader dowloads map but than of course it can\'t connect. Some player won\'t understand what\'s up :) I remember few players had problems even in old Crysis - they couldn\'t understand why they can\'t enter \"gray\" servers on the list for weeks :) So I\'m sure here some will also try it. It\' would be nice to block any kind of action and give this red message about wrong version desplayed in console while trying wrong ID. Anyway I really love this in-game solution. For me in some ways it\'s better than old Crysis MP menu. Just few fixes here and very small changes and we can make amazing video tutorial to promote it. Now it\'s not ready for it yet - In my opinion - But not many things left. It\'s almost done already :) Thanks a lot.

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  • Stefan

    I don\'t think this patch (or workaround) is targeted by those people who don\'t know stuff we here already know from like 2007 since the game came out. I\'m not saying the suggestions are bad, they\'re actually quite good, however not that necessary. I can see your\'re a perfectionist though :) Consider getting a job that requires that.

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  • Zi;

    1. Won\'t be problem 2. Solved 3. Could be possible 50% *think* 4. Solved 5. Solved 6. Solved ...in next version (7.1)...

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  • Freebo

    Zi - Thanks a lot man. I can\'t wait to have those things finally working :) it\'s so close to perfection now. Just few steps, few tests and we\'ve got it. Stefan - Thanks for your answer. You are right - in a way I\'m perfectionist unfortunatelly - but only with few things that I work on - with my maps for example and some mods, some of my videos also - I never consider them finished I keep making them more detailed - working on them so long and so much - till half of them is finally unplayable with low PCs. I hate this because of that some of my maps are beeing built for 2 years or more - and still half is not even public (only on videos). So it\'s very bad to be perfectionist sometimes - not good at all. But I will fight it soon :) - and I promise to make all those big maps public for 2015 - no matter: finished or not quite :) I\'ll find the way for it. I have to. But if you say that those things in our MP solution are not necessary. I can\'t agree with you at all. I don\'t consider this patch/solution as some kind of \"half way\" for few minutes in MP. I\'m 100% sure that thanks to all tools that I was waiting and looking for during past 3 years - finally we will soon have finished by Zi and other helping programmers/modders (including me in few things) - Crysis will be better than it ever was before. I\'m sure it will be finally prepared for promotion of MP. I will make few Trailers for new Crysis MP later. But before that, this client has to work and look little more pro. I think about it seriously and I don\'t like to leave things unfinished (unless it\'s very hard to finish them). I\'m sure we will have better, flexible and comfortable MP soon. I also still work on new things for 2015 - the year of new Crysis MP :) I know we won\'t have as many players as before but 30-50 is always possible to have on weekends. Of course after few months of promotion not just like that. It\'s all worth trying hard. Thanks to this MP patch we will be able to play Crysis always. Even in 2025 for some fans it can be nice experience - to go back in time to Crysis MP - but this time with new things here and new features. I\'m sure it\'s always worth even for 5 players (I will always be the one of them). It\'s really enough to have fun. Besides comfortable MP client always makes joining easy. Swiching between servers in few seconds and exploring even empty servers and maps (waiting for others from time to time) is always a pleasure. If it requires waiting long time while swiching, entering, starting (like in other Crysis solutions or in other games) - even I don\'t bother sometimes to visit it more often. Now with this console in-game solution - it\'s almost perfect and last 3 days after Zi\'s v7 beta was relesed - I felt really good while using Crysis and I was joining and changing servers at least 5x more often than before. Only few changes for 7.1 - and it will be perfect. I always try to see things as non programmer - this is why I\'m suggesting solutions that are comfortable also for players who play only those games which requires 2-3 mouse clicks to enter - not those actions prepared for more advanced users - and now I really see that we are very close to that moment. I\'m very happy watching it all working - for the first time since early april - when I had to post my sad messag on youtube. I was really depressed that month. It seemed like Crysis MP is gone for ever. Over 4 months ago I knew that solutions which we will have won\'t be good and easy enough to post them to all players. I was almost sure that most of them won\'t bother to install things, type commands, etc. Now the \"nightmare\" for unexperienced players is almost over. Just few more steps and promotion will begin :)

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  • Stefan

    Oh my god, I could\'ve literally made popcorn while reading this, take a shower and watch all commercials that are in the middle of a movie on TV. Seriously, like, make your answers short and clear. It\'s not a book club, haha :)

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  • Freebo

    Ha ha. Sure. I knew it will be a little problem :) Well this is very sad. I just forgot to say \"Sorry Stefan for the long answer but you\'ve asked for it\" ;) I just had small hope that my message will slide without it. Sorry but here comes another one - Reader\'s Nightmare - so please close your browser before it starts - and go take a shower please or make your popcorn. So here I go again: Make my answers short ? Haha - This will never happen. If question requires short answer - answer is short. Yes, No, 2 sentences etc.. The thing is your post was not a simple question but you have started some serious issue here :) Sorry - I had to answer the best I could to be certain. I will always do it this way. BTW this is what kills me now. Generation of SMS :) I know it\'s hard to watch 5 minutes video for some youtubers or read text longer than 20 lines. I\'m not talking about you (I hope for you it\'s not a problem) but I mean most of people of mid 90\'s generation that I know. Most of them just want to make things short - but that doesn\'t mean the one who wants to tell them something should make it short for them. No matter if they can consume his long texts or not. If answer requires long text - it will be long :) Yeah I know it sounds very cheap but: keep making discussion short, small talk each day and conversations about nothing + relationships based on SMS :) - you don\'t have to wait long to see the resaults in near future. Even now you can see what is going on in Europe ( I\'m not even talking about US - here your \"oh my god\" would fit better I\'m afraid) All based on SMS and making things short. People are afraid to talk or say what they want to say because it\'s against so called \"political correctness\" ;) Is that normal for you? It\'s not possible you want to go this way. I don\'t think so. But I understand that my answers are long sometimes ;) At least you know that I\'m serious about things - haha :) Now compare those answer with 1 sentence answers you see everywhere - and tell me which one looks more ignorant ? Short one or the one that requires 10 minutes to read. BTW - About your \"book club\" - I also have no time for reading book-long texts now - but it doesn\'t mean I can\'t read for 10-20 minutes from my screen each day. Man - let\'s stay sane :) I\'m answering this way because I\'m still trying to stay normal in this \"short brain\" world you try to put me in :) Zi would agree with me btw. Even as a programmer. Sorry for all that anyway - I really am. But I won\'t change it :( Discussing about serious issues with conclusions ? - never enough if it\'s needed :) - At least that I can do. Belive me it works most of the time :) Thanks and sorry again. You probably won\'t read it that far anyway - but I promise It won\'t happen again in this thread. Only technical stuff here from now from me. Unless someone will tease me with serious issue ;) Reader\'s nightmare goes on and on in that case...

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  • DSnipeFunk

    \"BTW this is what kills me now. Generation of SMS :) I know it\'s hard to watch 5 minutes video for some youtubers or read text longer than 20 lines. I\'m not talking about you (I hope for you it\'s not a problem) but I mean most of people of mid 90\'s generation that I know. Most of them just want to make things short - but that doesn\'t mean the one who wants to tell them something should make it short for them. No matter if they can consume his long texts or not. If answer requires long text - it will be long :) \" ^^You could have said this in one short sentence xD lol! Just kidding mate, just kidding ;)

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  • Frankie

    Just be happy for his long massages and for that hes perfectionist, - he gives ideas, programmers are realizing them. One without other wouldnt make that good work. It nicely fits. + he can write it well, so its easy to read it, not like me here, so this was short. But, damn, now I´ll feel like ignorant :). Have a nice day. Frankie.

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  • Youda008

    Unfortunately it doesn\'t fit so nicely. Ideas come always faster than anyone can realize them. I\'m saying that from my own experience. I have so many ideas, but statisticaly i manage to complete about 20%, the rest is - in better case - forgotten, and in worse case, i worry about them very much and can\'t concentrace on new things. And if someone keeps pouring ideas on a programmer, he may get tired after some time and welch on it.

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