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  • Forsaken

    If they aren't AWARE that this glitch, or whatever you want to call it, is why you are doing so much better, then its just as bad as a hack in my opinion. I know the so called 'OG' crysis guys are gonna jump all over me now, but it doesn't change the fact that it IS a scummy thing to do. CHANGE MY MIND ** DROPS MIC **

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  • Lukas

    Do you use walljump glitch? I guess you do, then you do the same thing... (walljump glitch is part of the game I know, unlocker is not but it is the same principle) Like almost every other player. And if people can't realize something is wrong with their game then they are stupid. There is no point in discussing this, Comrade said it will be fixed in the next patch so.. My prediction will be, the players who get owned before they still gonna get owned but they will see it only a little bit better. :D Because 60 hz doesn't make you automatically a good player. It can help yes but not that much.

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  • Comrade

    Maybe multiplayer client should launch Crysis in DX9 mode by default, because there's really no reason to use DX10, is it? DX10 mode is just broken, even Alt + Tab doesn't work well there. By the way, i don't see anything bad about those features available by the unlocker. Problem is that the unlocker is highly obfuscated closed-source junk, so nobody knows what it really does. Crysis is not competitive game and it will never be. It's not designed for that, but it can still be great fun, so you should play it just for fun. There are so many things that can be used as advantage against others, for example: - graphical settings and other in-game settings including cl_bob 0 - powerful computer (high FPS seems to be great advantage) - special computer accessories (for example gaming monitor with high refresh rate and low response time) - some more or less rude in-game glitches - even player's ping makes difference Still, all these things are VERY different from cheating. Any player with cheats can easily make whole game completely unplayable, but even the rudest pro-player with god-like aim and scroll wall jump can't do the same for sure. Maybe there are some really bad glitches that can make the game unplayable for others too, but it seems nobody uses anything like that. So, as i said above, it's not competitive game and it even can't be (especially with so poorly designed network part of the engine). Anyone can still use some illegal stuff and stay unnoticed, so you can't trust anyone, but it's not a problem if you play it just for fun. You can also use some rude game mechanics against players with advantages. For example, Vinker's dual grenade launcher. It's very rude and dishonest but it works well. :D

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  • Freebo

    Comrade: "Anyone can still use some illegal stuff and stay unnoticed, so you can't trust anyone, but it's not a problem if you play it just for fun. You can also use some rude game mechanics against players with advantages." Exactly. It just reminded me about our discussion about first person spectator mode possible to include somehow as default option for everybody :) That would solve a lot in terms of detecting usage of "illegal stuff". Including aim cheats, no recoil cheat and distant punches. Another thing would maybe be - to simply vote and put in network rules which glitches are not fair to use connecting that with tutorials how to use those which are fair to use. So everything would be clear, because still nowadays I see people commenting 8 years old wall jumping or CJ-Flying tutorials on youtube with "f.. hacker" comment :) even 11 years after the game has been released. Same goes to no-scope zoom glitch, which is a standard thing to use. At least it was standard in 2010 and it was a surprise for me to discover in 2018 that long-term players still never heard of that, and are not using it (?) Obviously newbies would call cheating even any basic ways of killing - but it's like in all games - can't do anything about that. But with the rest of stuff... some compromise can help here. Removing glitches we're all using and has nothing to do with non-fair play things. Like wall glitches and so on. If we agree on list of glitches which are OK - we can put them all on the official list with short tutorial, what's fine and fun to use and ok to use - and how to do that - especially when it's literally included in the game. But again - If some group of players is keeping some glitches to themselves - of course it can be treated as cheat. Unless there is a tutorial what that is, and how to do that - it's not a cheat anymore. As long as the game technically allows it (included in the code) and it's also in the tutorial - it's 100% fair, even if it requires months of training - it's a choice of players to work on that or become lazy and leave. But at least they wouldn't have the right to call it a cheat. Right now - it's not so obvious for new players.... or even old Mesa campers, especially non-english speakers. I know it's hard to believe that - but some people play on Mesa since 2007 and they have never heard about wall jumping, not to mention CJ-Flying - even today. And it's over 11 years since those "friendly" glitches has been discovered, used and perfected by many players. When I started to play I knew about those glitches during the first 3-4 weeks. Just by observing others or asking what's going on if I couldn't recognize if it's a hack/cheat or skill/glitch. There were no official tutorials about that (maybe one or two) - and most of people didn't want to share the knowledge at the time, keeping everything to themselves. I had to discover a lot myself (sometimes using wrong, very long and dumb path in the process of training), and I had to find own ways for some - but still, after months I had no idea about half of (less interesting to me) glitches for next 2 years (like some wall hacks or socom reload-jump). But since those were not about wining or losing in IA, just for fun - those didn't matter so much. So I'm always surprised people who played for years and years never heard about Wall Jumping. It's true. Some glitches are usless, some are usefull, some are really unfair to use on people who don't know them. So it should be solved somehow and unified for everybody. Crysis without most of glitches becomes CS, COD, BF or... Crysis Wars... What's the point ? Mesa Sniping ? Crysis is still the best MP in terms of skill and glitch based game. At the same time with great physics and mechanics of movements. But everything should be used together. Not excluded. I would personally add something more, because mods for Crysis as you know are not like "trainer" hacks - but also require working physics and skills to use. But at least those which are in the game should be promoted. Well known, before people even start to play. That would make them stay for years and always return for some fast, skilled movement based fights. Like we will always do, even though there are so many nice, brand new MP games, I've been trying many they are missing so much comparing to Crysis - and many of those things in Crysis are Exactly about Glitches. So it's a very important topic :)

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  • Comrade

    The real cheats are probably still much bigger problem than in-game glitches. If there are some really dangerous glitches, usually nobody or just few game veterans know about them, while anyone can download some crap from internet and ruin the game for others. On the other hand, most of these players equipped with some illegal crap are very stupid, so it's usually easy to find them and "remove" them from the game. So, it seems the only problem is: 1) smart cheaters - probably quite small group of people 2) rude veterans using unknown and highly unfair glitches against others - this is even smaller group of people for sure and i haven't seen anyone like that yet By the way, there's quite a lot of tutorials showing important and nice in-game glitches to new players. As a result, there are so many scroll jumpers today. Some people even say that it ruins the game, when everyone is jumping all over the place and killing others from back or using it to escape from fights. Personally, i think it's OK, but i still prefer "low-end" right-click wall jumps. Anyway, if some new player wants to know something about the game, he (or she :D) can always use this forum to ask, right? This is not possible for non-english speaking people, but they can still ask their countrymen in-game.

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  • Freebo

    "The real cheats are probably still much bigger problem than in-game glitches" Of course. And because automatical detection is not possible, that first person spectator mod would be helpful :) "1) smart cheaters - probably quite small group of people" Exactly, like that 100% accurate punch "trick" we could observe few years ago. I can't figure it out still :) That was smart cheat, not a skill for sure ;) "2) rude veterans using unknown and highly unfair glitches against others" Well I've seen that with MESA wall hacks. One of veterans in 2015 on Mesa Nostalgia was overusing it all the time, including hiding inside walls. He hated me later for saying it's not fair. But I know what you mean with that. People like that just can't understand that it's not fair to use it on people, especially for those who don't know the glitch and don't even know if they die because of lack of skills or cheat or glitch or something else :( "By the way, there's quite a lot of tutorials showing important and nice in-game glitches to new players. As a result, there are so many scroll jumpers today." Unfortunately I'm guilty of scroll jumping being more popular :o Before 2013 I saw it being used by 2 or 3 players, who were talking about it but not showing details (first time in 2011 I've seen that) - and I rememer when I made my first video tutorial about it - in Feb 2013 ( "Crysis 1 - Advanced Wall Jumping - Tutorial" ) showing basic scroll jumping (I wasn't advanced yet) and how mr Glob der hated me the same month for revealing "the deep secret" and not keeping it to myself :) But this is what I was talking about: There are only two ways - everybody knows about glitches and tricks - so everybody can use them or nobody should use them - otherwise it works like like a cheat or even hack for others. Luckily I didn't show exactly how to switch to scroll jumping (with images/video) counting on the intelligence of watchers (not for ignorants version who don't respect anything) but it was there in text at the beginning of the video already 6 years ago :) Before I made that video I was also against scroll jumping but because 2-3 people were using it and showing off with it on all servers, making fun of others that they "can't jump so high", calling them "noobs" or "stupid" - after making the video I thought it can at least become the official way and free to use and allowed for everybody. "Some people even say that it ruins the game, when everyone is jumping all over the place and killing others from back or using it to escape from fights. Personally, i think it's OK, but i still prefer "low-end" right-click wall jumps. " I agree, some so called "pro" fighters were using it to escape, all the time. You know at least one of the name. And of course it's the first natural "reflex" when you are about to die and you know the trick to save yourself :) Not fair always. But if everybody could use it and fight in mid air (just like Circle Jumping Flyers were back in the days) - that would be OK. But of course there can be always a rule to not use any Wall Jumping during the fight. For me it would suck a lot, since this is what Crysis is about. But everything should be based on agreement between players. Like a friendly fight. Not as we could see before - some arrogant pro aimers, pro boxers and pro jumpers using everything against others just on purpose, even when they've been asked to stop that. Don't think it can be solved - unless we just meet and play in small groups of friends where trust is not a problem and nobody comes to piss others off :) BTW - it's easy to make maps and servers where any wall jumping won't work at all. Just like I've made it on "Realism BF3 Mode" server. No problem with that at all :) Something for those who prefer more "retarded" MP game, like Crysis Wars :) So something to try out on some IA event soon - just running and shooting on Steel Mill, can be fun but far for all the glory of Crysis 1 MP. Possible as an option. No boxing, no walljumping... nice way to die. Handicap event version. "Anyway, if some new player wants to know something about the game, he (or she :D) can always use this forum to ask, right? " Haha, well not really. Some people in game are too shy even to ask on forum, or lazy to do so. They prefer to leave the game forever than find out how many great skills it can bring and that not all they see is cheating. "I died 10 times in a row, this game sucks, cheaters all over me, I quit forever" :) Most of people won't bother asking - as you can see here - this forum, during 4 years was the proof of that. So you're talking about some different community... Not gamers for sure, maybe "talkers" like me ha ha :)

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